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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st*

Postby slimm44 on Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:12 am

Bird_33 wrote:If anyone would wanna volunteer to edit player ratings that'd be a MASSIVE help...Ive used the UBR as a base and the ratings are crazy to be honest and its gonna take me some time to get it accurate..


I don't mind if you use mine. I can explain how I came up with the ratings, tendencies, and sig skills if needed.
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What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st*

Postby Culture Games on Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:28 am

slimm44 wrote:
Bird_33 wrote:If anyone would wanna volunteer to edit player ratings that'd be a MASSIVE help...Ive used the UBR as a base and the ratings are crazy to be honest and its gonna take me some time to get it accurate..


I don't mind if you use mine. I can explain how I came up with the ratings, tendencies, and sig skills if needed.



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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st*

Postby Bird_33 on Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:16 am

Ill take a look Slimm thanks...

Im still on track for an initial release for November 1st with updates following, anyone whos familiar with my stadium work on UBR/URB mod will understand how time consuming it is because of the level I go to with them...so even if I say so myself - this will easily be the best retro mod ever made :mrgreen: and worth the wait.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st*

Postby Bird_33 on Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:31 am

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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st*

Postby Culture Games on Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:09 am

Bird_33 wrote:Ill take a look Slimm thanks...

so even if I say so myself - this will easily be the best retro mod ever made


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Slimm's ratings will be perfect for this perfect retro mod
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Shockjock_0408 on Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:43 am

How do I download this for my PS4 NBA 2k16? Do you have any more seasons, jerseys, rosters? I'd like to relive the 1998-99 NBA season as well as the 89-90 season that you are releasing soon. I'd love to relive that entire era.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Culture Games on Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:21 am

Bird, are you all set with ratings? Slimm44's are the MOST accurate but i will look at whatever you have and fix them through sim testing if you want.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Bird_33 on Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:30 am

Im unsure man, I did a simulated season with the URB ratings and was a little dissapointed with some of it..i.e league MVP Magic averaging 15 points and my man Larry averaging 12points!....I know he wasnt his vintage self by 90 but he still averaged 24 points...Id rather you just handled the ratings PERIOD man if you could do that it would be a big help?

Right now every arena is at least 90% done for an initial release...so I'll be tightening those up over the next week as well as going through CF's n making sure all is right with those and team gear, etc...

So yeah really I could use someones help on ratings
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:48 am

A few things I've noticed about the stats from the tendancies/ratings:

If you want a certain player to get stats close to his real life self, you have to make sure they are playing atleast 38-42 mins per game, this means making sure that a player or multiple players on the bench who play the same position are NOT getting a decent amount of minutes. For example, If Bird is at SF, and you have Reggie Lewis coming off the bench at SF, and Birds minutes are set to 38, but Lewis is also set for 25... it will impact Birds numbers quite a bit, and if another SF on that bench is also allocated minutes, it will hurt Birds production as well. If you want Bird to be solid at assists (like he was), giving him the appropriate touches/dish to open man will get him to where you need him to be if the minutes issue is fixed. This goes for things like PPG etc, if Bird is at a 90 Shot Tendency, but Parish/McHale AND Lewis are all at a 80-85, Birds average will suffer a lot. I've also noticed that if a lot of the players who are on the floor at the same time as Bird have high dish to open man, it will impact Birds assists (Birds assists should be really solid).

I've done A TON of correcting of this stuff on the UBR, but also in NBA 2K16 and 2K17 (2k really screwed it up with these two, you have players getting like 10 assists in a full season, sometimes starters...). It's all about balancing the minutes per position and making sure the tendencies are accurate to the player who should excel in a category. When we loaded up default 2k roster in NBA 2k17, and simulated a season, David Robinson averaged like 0.3 SPG and 14 ppg. After seeing that they low balled his on ball steal/pass perception, made his shot tendency low, AND made his minutes to low and the bench bigs minutes to high, I made the necessary adjustments and got him averaging 1.3 SPG and 22 ppg.

Not sure if this helps or not... but figured I would pass it on.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby slimm44 on Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:29 am

I'll post some pics later, but the only thing you need to do to get accurate results with my edits are set accurate minutes.

That's it.
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2019/2020 2018/2019 2017/2018 2016/2017 2015/2016 2014/2015 2013/2014 2012/2013 2011/2012 2010/2011
2009/2010 2008/2009 2007/2008 2006/2007 2005/2006 2004/2005 2003/2004 2002/2003 2001/2002 2000/2001
1999/2000 1998/1999 1997/1998 1996/1997 1995/1996 1994/1995 1993/1994 1992/1993 1991/1992 1990/1991
1989/1990 1988/1989 1987/1988 1986/1987 1985/1986 1984/1985 1969/1970 1961/1962


What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby skoadam on Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:05 am

Bird_33 wrote:Im unsure man, I did a simulated season with the URB ratings and was a little dissapointed with some of it..i.e league MVP Magic averaging 15 points and my man Larry averaging 12points!....I know he wasnt his vintage self by 90 but he still averaged 24 points...Id rather you just handled the ratings PERIOD man if you could do that it would be a big help?

No man, im dissapointed that you dont understand basic things about how game calculate stats.
This is the result of simulating URB 1989/90. Did you ever checked Bird minutes? Slimm job on 2k13/2k14 ratings/tendencies is GIGANTIC, he implemented almost all REAL stats into 2k rating system. Its really hard to read your post and leave it without reaction. So here it is. URB 89/90 full season simulation.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:07 am

skoadam wrote:
Bird_33 wrote:Im unsure man, I did a simulated season with the URB ratings and was a little dissapointed with some of it..i.e league MVP Magic averaging 15 points and my man Larry averaging 12points!....I know he wasnt his vintage self by 90 but he still averaged 24 points...Id rather you just handled the ratings PERIOD man if you could do that it would be a big help?

No man, im dissapointed that you dont understand basic things about how game calculate stats.
This is the result of simulating URB 1989/90. Did you ever checked Bird minutes? Slimm job on 2k13/2k14 ratings/tendencies is GIGANTIC, he implemented almost all REAL stats into 2k rating system. Its really hard to read your post and leave it without reaction. So here it is. URB 89/90 full season simulation.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Bird_33 on Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:13 am

skoadam wrote:
Bird_33 wrote:Im unsure man, I did a simulated season with the URB ratings and was a little dissapointed with some of it..i.e league MVP Magic averaging 15 points and my man Larry averaging 12points!....I know he wasnt his vintage self by 90 but he still averaged 24 points...Id rather you just handled the ratings PERIOD man if you could do that it would be a big help?

No man, im dissapointed that you dont understand basic things about how game calculate stats.
This is the result of simulating URB 1989/90. Did you ever checked Bird minutes? Slimm job on 2k13/2k14 ratings/tendencies is GIGANTIC, he implemented almost all REAL stats into 2k rating system. Its really hard to read your post and leave it without reaction. So here it is. URB 89/90 full season simulation.
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:lol: I understand "basic things" as much as I understand condescension, so wind your neck in. All I did was assume minutes were allocated within the roster file and did a quick sim.

Anyway, yeah looks good slimm I'll probably use them then, thanks
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby slimm44 on Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:12 am

Bird_33 wrote:
skoadam wrote:
Bird_33 wrote:Im unsure man, I did a simulated season with the URB ratings and was a little dissapointed with some of it..i.e league MVP Magic averaging 15 points and my man Larry averaging 12points!....I know he wasnt his vintage self by 90 but he still averaged 24 points...Id rather you just handled the ratings PERIOD man if you could do that it would be a big help?

No man, im dissapointed that you dont understand basic things about how game calculate stats.
This is the result of simulating URB 1989/90. Did you ever checked Bird minutes? Slimm job on 2k13/2k14 ratings/tendencies is GIGANTIC, he implemented almost all REAL stats into 2k rating system. Its really hard to read your post and leave it without reaction. So here it is. URB 89/90 full season simulation.
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:lol: I understand "basic things" as much as I understand condescension, so wind your neck in. All I did was assume minutes were allocated within the roster file and did a quick sim.

Anyway, yeah looks good slimm I'll probably use them then, thanks


The only game mode that keeps minutes the same as in the roster file is playoff mode. Season and association go into 2k logic which is just dumb.

Feel free to use my edits. I'm finishing up the very last edit to my spreadsheet and then I get to paste the FINAL edits into my "all seasons" spreadsheet, then paste into roster files. If you can wait until then, it would be ideal because there would be no duplicate work needed.
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1999/2000 1998/1999 1997/1998 1996/1997 1995/1996 1994/1995 1993/1994 1992/1993 1991/1992 1990/1991
1989/1990 1988/1989 1987/1988 1986/1987 1985/1986 1984/1985 1969/1970 1961/1962


What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Culture Games on Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:51 am

Dee4Three wrote:A few things I've noticed about the stats from the tendancies/ratings:

If you want a certain player to get stats close to his real life self, you have to make sure they are playing atleast 38-42 mins per game, this means making sure that a player or multiple players on the bench who play the same position are NOT getting a decent amount of minutes. For example, If Bird is at SF, and you have Reggie Lewis coming off the bench at SF, and Birds minutes are set to 38, but Lewis is also set for 25... it will impact Birds numbers quite a bit, and if another SF on that bench is also allocated minutes, it will hurt Birds production as well. If you want Bird to be solid at assists (like he was), giving him the appropriate touches/dish to open man will get him to where you need him to be if the minutes issue is fixed. This goes for things like PPG etc, if Bird is at a 90 Shot Tendency, but Parish/McHale AND Lewis are all at a 80-85, Birds average will suffer a lot. I've also noticed that if a lot of the players who are on the floor at the same time as Bird have high dish to open man, it will impact Birds assists (Birds assists should be really solid).

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Well, yes. It's all relative. And most importantly, If you have a starting SF at 38 minutes, the backup SF needs to be set to 10 minutes. That's a rotation. Like everyone already said, I think Bird33 was just having some kind of issue with minutes assigned, or the game resetting rotations, etc, because every sim I've ever done with URB is amazingly accurate. I was going to post my own screenshots, but Sko already did.

I'm glad we all had this talk. :)
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:31 am

Yeah I wasn't trying to come off like a know it all or anything, sorry if I came off that way guys. Was just trying to help.

Slimm obviously does an amazing job. So it's cool that he is helping with this project.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Culture Games on Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:15 am

Dee4Three wrote:Yeah I wasn't trying to come off like a know it all or anything, sorry if I came off that way guys. Was just trying to help.

Slimm obviously does an amazing job. So it's cool that he is helping with this project.



Your help is always appreciated Dee. Especially on an eventbin music tutorial, I imagine... :lol:
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Bird_33 on Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:26 am

Dee4Three wrote:Yeah I wasn't trying to come off like a know it all or anything, sorry if I came off that way guys. Was just trying to help.

Slimm obviously does an amazing job. So it's cool that he is helping with this project.


Nahhhhhhh didnt come across like that at all man
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Culture Games on Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:47 am

Celtics/Lakers previews next please :D :D :D
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *RELEASING NOVEMBER 1st* SPECTRUM PREVIEWS & NIKE STS!

Postby Bird_33 on Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:10 pm

Haha well I previously posted celtics previews and I'd already made the Great Western Forum previously for UBR..I'll post a bunch of previews for many other teams soon though
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *New Boston Garden Preview*

Postby Bird_33 on Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:17 am

Ive been messing with my Boston Garden and seeing what I can do with what is available, heres a preview so far...

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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *New Boston Garden Preview*

Postby Culture Games on Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:43 pm

Two more days until tip off :applaud:
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *New Boston Garden Preview*

Postby Culture Games on Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:34 am

Womp Womp :cry:
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *New Boston Garden Preview*

Postby RayRay_953 on Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:23 am

Bird, if you can, you should post a preview of the arena music that will play during the games.
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Re: NBA ON TNT - 1989-90 MOD *New Boston Garden Preview*

Postby YHM on Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:58 pm

Dear,how I can download this mod,I really need this,I also love this game,please.
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